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Post by Effie Trinket on Nov 3, 2019 10:20:54 GMT
Welcome Susan and Kirby! You have the terrific honor of representing District 8 in this year's Quarter Quell. If you will pardon the pun, District 8 obviously is key to the fabric of Panem society. That is, because you produce the fabrics used not only to make my glamorous outfits, but also our wonderful Peacekeepers. You might remember former winners in Woof and Cecelia. While last year your Tributes died at the Cornucopia almost immediately, I have faith you will emulate those older, more successful Victors. I understand that you practice physical strength on the factory floor and manual dexterity on the loom, so it is my earnest hope that you are able to find a way to put it to use in the Arena. Either way, this is your board. You may use it for anything that you want! Communicate, strategize, perform challenges, or simply encourage one another to be the most successful team you can be. May the odds be ever in your favor.
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Post by Caesar Flickerman on Mar 18, 2020 19:33:26 GMT
You will have temporary access to view The Eliminator just so that you can review it. In addition, you will have temporary access to view your old District forums to give the opportunity for you to note anything before you lose access permanently. We will be disabling access to both these areas after 6pm PDT tomorrow. Let us know if you have technical difficulties.
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Post by Susan on Mar 19, 2020 1:07:00 GMT
I shouldn't need anything from the old one. Also, Kirby you wanna just chat mostly here?
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Post by Kirby on Mar 19, 2020 1:39:57 GMT
We can, sure
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Post by Susan on Mar 19, 2020 1:46:14 GMT
Okay, so, how you wanna do this? Not just Project HI I SUCK SORRY, but also plan going forward.
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Post by Susan on Mar 19, 2020 1:50:43 GMT
Also, yes, Tetra confirmed that she voted you like we thought her district had.
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Post by Susan on Mar 19, 2020 1:52:51 GMT
Also sorry, I'm really hype to have a partner I know will actually respond to me and theorize and plot. I loved Iz, but we hadn't been able to do that since we won immunity. So I've been dying for something new and to hit the ground running. I kinda throw info at people as I get it, it's just my thing.
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Post by Susan on Mar 19, 2020 2:07:13 GMT
I haven't told anyone that Gilly quit, I figured you should get to decide if you tell anybody about it or not.
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Post by Kirby on Mar 19, 2020 7:07:49 GMT
So it was D10 that voted D3 with me? That measn at least some part of Ulysses wanted to work with me. That's good.
I am just going to get in to reparations with people. I am not as in tune with alliance structure as you are. Effectively there's one vote that will really matter and not be a clusterfuck so we can get to that. You mentioned how close you were to D3. So I'm not sure how this is going to play out from here.
I will check back in after I have messaged everyone.
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Post by Susan on Mar 19, 2020 9:28:35 GMT
Yes, but Ulysses seemed much more about getting rid of D3 than working with you. I could be wrong, but his entire sell to me on everything was that D3 was a huge challenge threat that needed to go. But I don't think he hates you forever or anything.
I have an idea but it's possible I don't know everything. And yeah this vote matters. As far as I can tell, Zod really wants stuff with us to work out. And like I think most everyone else has their guns pointed at D3, but Zod at least, wants to shoot at 12 and 10. And really he doesn't want to end up with a partner like 12 if he goes into elimination. He sent me a wall that I need to dissect a bit, but ideally I think we can use that.
And sure. I've explained my reasons to Tetra, Tracer, and Ulysses since I hadn't before I left, and I asked Ulysses point blank, cuz that's how we do, how what was left behind in eliminatorland and all affects us as a pair right now. So we'll see what he says. I had told Tracer that I didn't vote 10 as an option because I didn't want to risk losing her. Which is slightly true, I do like Tracer and have for a while, and she brings a sweet vibe to everything. Tetra told me that Wenya didn't give much input over her switching her vote to match mine.
I'll let you know more as I learn more.
Also, I'm not super good at bot-building, are you?
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Post by Kirby on Mar 19, 2020 11:14:09 GMT
I can give it a red hot go.
I think that it's a case of mostly luck. And how well you can program voting. So I think ensuring no overheating is the aim.
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Post by Susan on Mar 19, 2020 11:22:49 GMT
It mostly is a bit, yes. But I'm not the best at balancing things out or really truly understanding what stats matter for what. It's slightly too formless to sort out. But I can probably edit? I think something that is solid but not the most standing out is decent, and maybe shooting at the middle folks might be a strategy? Dunno. I bow to your wisdom oh pink one.
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Post by Kirby on Mar 20, 2020 14:02:01 GMT
Messaged everyone, not gotten solid amounts back from everyone, but looking like Ulysses is still tight with me, and Zod and I are cool, basically respecting that we would like to see each other around in Final 3.
I think we as a pair are going to be ok for the moment. Zod has a personal interest in keeping us both around, and an interest in knocking D10. Puts me in a weird spot though. Depends on how D7 is and I haven't gotten much from them. I think Stitch and I will be ok. Ted took it pretty hard though.
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Post by Kirby on Mar 20, 2020 14:06:19 GMT
I think there is very little chance that D10 will not be in the eliminator if they don't win immunity.
The question will be who is there with them. I think Zod expects whoever has immunity to nom D3 for threat purposes, which he seems ok with, as it fits in to his end game plan. I think he specifically wants to be paired with Ulysses going in to final 3, throw the challenge, ditch Ulysses for a challenge threat and win from there. The fact that he is open about this means we can have some edge in his thinking here, he may be trying to avoid it for a round and need set up in the next vote. Or he may be begging us for a specific scenario in the next vote involving him using Ulysses to snipe Tetra. All of which we can use if we keep the information in our heads. I think going in to final three if we don't win immunity both of us would be happy to have him as a partner, so I don't think playing along drives a wedge between us at all.
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Post by Susan on Mar 20, 2020 15:40:30 GMT
Yup, I think so too. Which is really what I was hoping for here. 10 and 3 are aimed at each other both frankly needing and trusting us. Nobody's targetting us either. And I think you're right with that assessment there too. I think D7 is a pair we could drop into an eliminator if we're trying for something specific. But like, I think we kinda have the flexibility in what we can do and plan towards no matter who sits in the immunity chair. Which is really why I wanted to be sitting next to you. No other partner opened doors quite so wide as you. I will let you know what I hear from 12 and 7, it hasn't been much yet. But 10 and 3 have given me largely what they've given you. Though Fenrir says very little.
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Post by Susan on Mar 21, 2020 10:12:15 GMT
I haven't heard anything from d7 since we got back, have you? I've also not seem them online either though so.
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Post by Susan on Mar 21, 2020 21:40:27 GMT
10 and 3 are aimed at each other, and I think they both are counting on us, and we don't know what 7 is up to, or 12 for that matter. Whatcha thinkin' we should do?
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Post by Kirby on Mar 21, 2020 23:42:13 GMT
Zod has heard from D7 that they are nominating D12 atm.
D12 and D10 are voting for D3. D3 and I guess us are voting for D10.
That makes D7 the tiebreaker between them, likley to pick D10 over D3.
All subject to change, I am getting very little from anyone.
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Post by Kirby on Mar 21, 2020 23:44:21 GMT
If, and this is a huge if, you would like to stab D3, then this would be the vote to do it. However that would sever relationships with D3, and if Zod wins eliminator, we could have a crazy strong Zod/Tetra pairing.
However, that would be a way to remove the two best challenge people as they would face off in the eliminator. I have no doubt that Zod and Tetra are the two best competitors in the game. Followed by probably Stitch.
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Post by Susan on Mar 21, 2020 23:45:05 GMT
Yeah, barely anybody has been here at all. So it's not just you.
So you want to be on 10 there? I didn't want to assume or anything.
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Post by Susan on Mar 21, 2020 23:46:36 GMT
I don't know if I do want to do that tbh. I think the fallout is much worse there than it is if we don't. But again, I'm willing to weigh this out and consider our best move.
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Post by Kirby on Mar 21, 2020 23:53:21 GMT
I can be real with you. In terms of my own trajectory for the game. There is a world where if both Zod and Tetra are alive at the end of the game, I do not see us as a pairing winning the game. I think we can if Zod and Tetra aren't both in the game, and the remaining one is paired with someone like Tracer/Fenrir/Ulysses/Ted
From my own perspective of winning the game, we need to either remove Zod and/or Tetra. And that's only assured if they are paired together. Alternatively, I need to set up being paired with one of them. That happens if they are paired together and I am in the eliminator with them. This benefits whoever of us two makes it out.
So point blank question, how do you rate us if we are still together at final 2 against various pairings?
I think either way, setting up a Zod/Tetra pair is good, and the earlier the better because if it happens now there are two shots for them to not win immunity and get split up. Everyone will know they are a threat and they will be everyone's vote. It would also provide an opportunity for a freak accident and one of them getting eliminated.
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Post by Kirby on Mar 21, 2020 23:53:59 GMT
tl;dr
At least one of Zod/Tetra needs to die, for either of us to have a shot at winning. Pairing them together provides that chance.
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Post by Susan on Mar 22, 2020 0:09:26 GMT
You know, that is very very fair. The thing is wouldn't pairing them together make them stronger before being able to take a shot at them? You might not be wrong. Just thinking at the moment. And disclaimer, I'm only half awake. So let's weigh this out. Like I know I'm not great at challenges, but I'm not the worst at them either. I'm good in a team though. So I'm good for endgame but maybe not the eliminator.
Ulysses seems to think that Zod absolutely wants him as his partner and that D7 is gonna try to make that happen.
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Post by Susan on Mar 22, 2020 0:14:08 GMT
Hm, against various pairs, that's a good question. We've both managed to win challenges here so far. And idk, a lot of the challenges we saw in the eliminator weren't that much more difficult than we've had out here, and I oddly feel decently confident in them?
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