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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 1:23:32 GMT
What I also like about the idea of nominating D10 is that we don't have to worry about which way the vote swings in terms of D3/D10 as they're both going to go out anyways, though both districts would obviously be pretty pissed at us. Also I checked through the individual times and Ulysses under-performed in most of them.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 22, 2020 1:23:49 GMT
I'll be back in half an hour or less. Currently leaning toward sending Districts 3 and 10, but not married to it.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 1:25:42 GMT
We have lots of time left, so no rush! I'm leaning towards that way too but I'm not 100% on it yet.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 1:36:18 GMT
Just to kind of spew out my thoughts for when you get back, I think one of my biggest fears in terms of nomiating D12 is that we tell Zod/Susan that we're going to vote out 10, they run over to Wenya and let her know, and then she flips to stay in the majority and knock out D10 instead, and I really want D3 broken up this round, at the very least to allow a chance for Zod to get knocked out. I don't think anyone's going to be happy if we go down that route, but I'm thinking it's just a different between a regretful backstab or a vengeful backstab come next around anyhow if we don't happen to win immunity since we'd just be knocked out. The only thing that'll make me reconsider if there's a route that gives us a good chance of surviving F4 even without an immunity win, but that'll require having two shields in front of us. Even convincing anyone to knock out D3 instead of us could be a tough sell, but D4 as well? D10, D12? I'm really not seeing it. So yeah, definitely make sure D3 goes out one way or another, and then nominate whoever would hamper D3 the most or allow this vote to go by the smoothest, which I'm thinking is D10 but could also be D12.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 1:45:33 GMT
OK wait I also just remembered secondary votes existed, uuuuuuhhh. I mean would people just put down D3 as their secondary anyways? They might do something random like D8 just because they might think it wouldn't really matter anyways. In that case if we're going to do D10 we might as well just go all in and do D3 just to ensure there's absolutely no funny business going on, but that might be thinking a bit too far. I don't think it matters if we burn 3 anyhow, since if they win immunity next round we're almost absolutely going to be voted out regardless of whether or not he decides to nominate us because... OK, wait a minute, I just realized something, if we send out D10/D12 and D3 wins immunity next round, theoretically speaking there's a chance that us and 8 could vote out the new 10/12 and D3 would just nominate... OK wait another minute, nvm, I don't think D3 would even nominate 8 over us regardless of how close he is to us. I'm just coming around in circles more or less.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 22, 2020 2:07:37 GMT
LOL that was a trip to read. Are you still feeling good about sending Districts 3 and 10? If so, we just need to figure out how to make sure that happens.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 2:14:39 GMT
Yeah, as long as you are.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 22, 2020 2:22:56 GMT
Yup, seems like the best plan to me.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 2:31:24 GMT
OK, cool. I just don't know whether or not to come clean to 8 about where we're voting/nominating, or if it would even matter. I think I'm just going to tell them we're going to vote out 10 and then worry about that later.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 22, 2020 2:39:43 GMT
How do you actually want to do it? Is there any way that us nominating one of District 3 or 10 leads to an outcome that we don't want? They're certainly voting against each other, and it's safe to assume that District 12 has them as their two votes. That should be enough to guarantee that we get what we want, regardless of which one we nominate ourselves.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 2:45:10 GMT
There's a slight chance that nominating 10 doesn't lead to 3 going out in the vote depending on who each district put as their secondary vote, and who jumps on board once we claim that we're voting out 10. For that reason I'd slightly prefer we nominate 3 ourselves. There's potentially a chance we can play naive if we nominate 10 instead and say we didn't realize it would lead to 3 being voted out, but I doubt anyone would buy that. I'm going to tell 8 we're voting 10 since it'll most likely be the truth anyhow.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 22, 2020 3:02:06 GMT
Tetra just confirmed that their vote is currently on District 3. Also asked if her District is getting nominated. I assume it's fine if I tell her that she's safe?
By vote, do you mean our tiebreaker?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 3:09:05 GMT
Yeah, our tiebreaker, essentially who's going to be second on our list.
It's fine if you tell her that. I'm still thinking things over though just in case, but worst case scenario we can just let them know if we do change our mind.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 22, 2020 3:17:07 GMT
If we're going to nominate District 3, should we tell District 12 to change their vote to District 10, just in case?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 3:19:20 GMT
I'm not sure yet. To be clear, just in case of what?
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 22, 2020 3:21:32 GMT
Just in case they have someone else as their secondary vote, though I now realize that it wouldn't matter because Districts 3 and 8 would be enough to vote out District 10.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 3:26:55 GMT
Yeah, that's why I wanted to nominate 3 in the first place. I'm having second thoughts about keeping 3 and 8 in the dark. Technically if we pretend like everything's going according to plan then pretty much nothing will go wrong, but I'd feel pretty bad about it afterwards. Part of me does want to let them know so they don't feel as blindsided, even if it probably wouldn't matter either way. I'm not decided on it though.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 22, 2020 3:34:53 GMT
Do you think they'd change their votes if we told them? There probably isn't a lot of risk in telling them, but it's still safer to keep them in the dark. I feel like the social game is pretty much dead at this point, and it's all about challenge performance from here, but maybe that's just me.
For what it's worth, Wenya thinks District 3 is locked into the finals if they're not taken care of this round.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 3:38:08 GMT
Wenya is probably correct! The more I think about the possible alternatives the more I realize this is the best route for us to go.
Alright, I'll just stick with the facade of nominating 12 and voting out 10, I'll see if I change my mind a bit before deadline. I assume we don't tell Wenya what we're doing either, right? Because if anyone's going to leak anything it'll definitely be her.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 22, 2020 3:41:47 GMT
So far, I haven't told anyone what we're doing. I did tell Tetra that they're safe this round though. Didn't tell her anything else about what we're planning.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 3:45:56 GMT
OK, cool. I think we should keep up the appearance that we're voting out 10 and nominating 12. Tetra might get suspicious if word gets back around to her, but it won't change anything and they'll find out for themselves once deadline actually comes around.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 22, 2020 3:47:42 GMT
Alright, I'll send out some messages pretending that's what we're doing.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 22, 2020 4:24:59 GMT
K, I've told Zod and Susan just now (about our fake plans). Might as well break it to Ulysses as well, provided he pretty much expects to be voted out anyways.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 23, 2020 21:00:33 GMT
OK, so I've been looking through the challenge a bit and think we need to do some strategizing first. Just to get scheduling out of the way, tomorrow I won't be available until around 4 PM PST, but I am free all day today and Wednesday for the challenge. I'd rather not start until we have a decent strategy as far as the best way to approach this, but if you're only available during a certain period of time then I can accommodate for that.
Do you have any preference as far as Spotter/Navigator goes? I am not very good at Geology and haven't played Geoguessr until now, but I've been looking at videos on Youtube and I think I'm getting a hang of it. I feel there is going to be a lot more pressure on the Spotter compared to the Navigator as it seems like the latter just has to Google stuff more or less. As far as basic strategy goes it seems like the best route would be to go up and down the street in Geoguessr until you can find something like a local business, street name, landmark, etc. that the Spotter will communicate, and then the Navigator can look it up online and hopefully come up with a city name that they can look up on Google Maps, then communicate approx. where that would be on the map, and from there the Spotter can navigate to it on their own map and adjust it from there.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 23, 2020 22:40:06 GMT
I could probably do the challenge tonight, but I'd prefer not to. I'll be available tomorrow night and most of Wednesday, so we should be fine to not do it tonight.
Gonna watch some videos myself and then come back.
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