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Post by Effie Trinket on Nov 3, 2019 10:20:32 GMT
Welcome Tracer and Ulysses! I am thrilled to make your acquaintance as you prepare for this years incredibly exciting Hunger Games. District 10 is highly adored by we folks in The Capitol, for without the livestock you produce, how would we enjoy the Filet Mignon or Steak au Poivre? While I might not be able to name a specific Victor or Tribute from your District in recent memory, do not let that discourage you! This just means that you have fresh room to blaze a trail and create a reputation for yourselves! I expect that should you win, there is no way that your District will maintain it's reputation of 'No significant characters in the source material.' Whatever that means. Either way, this is your board. You may use it for anything that you want! Communicate, strategize, perform challenges, or simply encourage one another to be the most successful team you can be. May the odds be ever in your favor.
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 14, 2020 6:20:02 GMT
*Pours one out for Beetlejuice.*
I finally made it... old friend.
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Post by Caesar Flickerman on Mar 14, 2020 6:24:27 GMT
You will have temporary access to view The Eliminator just so that you can see the results. In addition, you will have temporary access to view your old District forums to give the opportunity for you to note anything before you lose access permanently. We will be disabling access to both these areas at 11pm PDT tomorrow. Let us know if you have technical difficulties.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 14, 2020 6:56:51 GMT
Ok so we've gotta do some planning, and probably some damage control. You got voted in, and I didn't pm anyone the entire last phase b/c I was so goddamn tilted after the challenge results.
Was there anything you weren't saying about the previous round that you knew? I understand not putting all the cards on the table, but from here it's pretty clear we're locked in the same side now. We gotta figure out who else is weak so we can figure out whom we can target. We probably need to build an alliance from people on the bottom and overthrow the heads from here. We can't really afford to play it safe and slow, else we just get thrown back in (I think).
8 is super tight. 12 does nothing, but Susan is a Pming social Goddess. I expect she's super close with basically everyone she's interacted with, specifically Gilly. I think 8, 4, and 3 are gonna be in a trio at the very least. Do you agree with that analysis?
I'm going through old pm's from that phase. I kinda gave up and stopped giving a fuck after I saw I got thrown into the exterminator, so I expect people are gonna have a bad feeling about me.
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 14, 2020 7:05:44 GMT
Yeah, I got voted in unanimously-- apparently last round was the result of all the stress in the game coming down at once, and District 1 was apparently the ones running everything with their social connections?
Well, I put most of the stuff I knew up there on the table, but I obviously didn't fight for District 1 to stay that hard, or it wouldn't have happened-- I was just trying to attempt to curry favor with River so that I wouldn't be targeted in that challenge, since I have bad experience with battle royales. We can still play nice with Kirby and Gilly, but we shouldn't go out of our way to protect them in case we're targeted by them for association-- I'd recommend just sending a few nice messages and saying you're up to work together. Feel free to ask me anything if you need more information, because we NEED to stick together and not get sent to the eliminator here. We are extremely lucky that it's a vote this round.
8 is pretty much a moot point here because 12 quit the game, as the announcements said. Kirby told me that Susan didn't like Gilly, so that's a surprise to me. I think we should play this round by ear and try to get as much information out of it as possible.
In any case, one bad round isn't going to ruin people's perception of you-- if anything, it's being paired up with the guy that was just voted in. I'll let you know what I hear, but I think what's most important here is not giving everyone else an easy target to go for. District 3's real loyalties are an enigma at this point since according to Shuichi/River they were the ones who leaked the 'alliance'. Everything else has gone to shit and I think it's every district for themselves.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 14, 2020 7:12:40 GMT
If it's every man for themselves from here, we're in great shape. I think we can handle this pretty well. I got the impression Gilly and Susan were tight but trying to keep it on the DL. Hearing about that from Kirby might just indicate they don't want how close they are to be leaked to the rest of the game. I think we should assume they're close until otherwise.
12 medivacing is great news for Susan, as she gets to control her district's vote this round, and doesn't have to worry about 12's interactions. She's also immune and is guaranteed to move on, so imo Susan is the #1 person we need to schmooze.
Kirby has already reached out to me, and I'm gonna try to get/stay tight with him. Gonna see what the rest of the tribe thought about last vote and see if we can figure anything out.
I totally agree about district 3 being an enigma. Figuring out what they're thinking will be critical.
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 14, 2020 7:19:07 GMT
Huh, that actually makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I can see how Gilly and Susan would be tight-- so in that case, I'm guessing we have a reasonable path to reach the end? I'm gonna wait until I can hear their opinions on each other if the opportunity arises before I make any assumptions, but I like the way you think.
I mean it's also great news for her because she's no longer partners with 12, right? I feel like as long as we establish a good relationship with her, we can at the very worst tie the vote here-- and we should probably start thinking about the endgame as well, since that's going to be happening in a good 4-5 rounds from now.
That's great to hear. He's definitely up to trust you, so if you can stay tight with him then that would be amazing. Right now the key is getting this damn tribe stabilized and figuring out a safe path for us to move forward on. This whole bloodbath and merge has been an exhausting ride.
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 14, 2020 7:19:45 GMT
I'm probably gonna head off to sleep soon, by the way. I'll work on socializing and damage control tomorrow.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 14, 2020 7:41:29 GMT
Ok sounds good. We'll catch up tomorrow.
Kirby's story is you guys were sent in by team #1's alliance to weaken Kirby's position. Kirby says district 7 hates them, and confirmed the bit about Susan liking Kriby but hating Gilly. Not sure I buy it, but Kirby seems like he's serious about working with us.
If he's honest, and district 7 actually hates district 4, we need to see where the rest of the tribe stands. Ideally, it's relatively evenly split (2-2, or 3-2), so we can play the middle and ride it out.
I don't think it will be that clear though. This feels more like a "tree trunk" game, rather than an alliance game. We need to figure out who's the trunk of the tree, and who are the branches. I suspect zod/fenrir and stitch/cruz are the trunk and everyone else is on the outside, but I think people feel super close to those districts so I'm not sure we could make a move on.
I'm sure wenya/tetra feel super vulnerable (like always) and could maybe be overly paranoid and be willing to make a move.
That just leaves Susan, with likely nebulous feelings while immune.
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 14, 2020 9:52:42 GMT
Yeah, that's apparently the same thing that River and Shuichi said back when we were in the Eliminator, so I'm inclined to believe that he wants to work with us and that we at least have one pair of allies that we can get with if things become too tough in this trying time.
And that's true. I don't know if I'd go all the way for Kirby and Gilly-- I'd much rather try and stay on top and reach a position where people feel like they need to make moves or they won't be at the end, let alone able to win in it. Next round, the dynamic will probably change again due to nobody having a guaranteed immunity, so the best time to make a move is now or there.
I agree with your assessment of that-- those two districts are pretty much running this game, although Zod and Fenrir are doing it to a bigger extent than Stitch and Cruz are. If we do take out Kirby and Gilly and send them to the eliminator instead of us, then next round, we'd still have someone convincing Susan to be on our side, two votes guaranteed, and the ability to send the two biggest threats down. But that's only speculation, and I think both of our districts surviving would be an ideal outcome.
You're right about Tetra and Wenya Zhu. I haven't had the best of relations with Wenya in the past, but I'm sure we can put that aside if the need to make a move arises.
Also-- when it comes to the challenge, do you want to try as hard as possible to be immune, or would you want to throw and pass it off as if we're easily beatable when it comes to the last challenge? If people want to take us further because they think they can beat us, that would be more beneficial than trying and failing to pull off a win.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 14, 2020 16:18:22 GMT
Before we determine if we want to throw or win, we need to figure out what's gonna happen if we're immune and what's gonna happen if we're not.
I get the impression we're gonna be safe this round, no matter what. I think districts 4 and 7 are gonna be the hot topics of conversation this round, and if one of them is immune the other's getting sent into exterminator.
That leaves us,
District 12 Wenya/Tetra (I think they want to target Kirby/Gilly for challenge prowess) District 3 Zod/Fenrir (Unclear ATM He said he was part of the same vote with D7 last round, but that means he was trying to protect you which is something district 4 wants as well. As a result, I'm not sure where they fall on this one) District 8 Susan (can't win immunity, so her vote always counts. She was a huge part of the push on you last round, I think b/c she knew she was a target while 12 was dragging her down. She says she doesn't care much as long as she's safe, which she is, but she might be interested in pushing you again. Be careful when talking to her. I think she's the most likely among all the remaining players to push us, so we gotta be careful not to give her too much ammunition/desire).
So my current state of the analysis is basically there's like 1 team siding with district 7 in the 7v4 battle, and the others are nebulous. That's not much from me. Do you have anything more concrete for the rest? I'm obviously still working on feeling this out, and we don't know who's immune yet.
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 14, 2020 16:42:59 GMT
On my way home from a friend’s house now. Will respond when I get back in ~15-20 minutes or so.
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 14, 2020 17:04:49 GMT
That's true. I have a feeling that multiple people are going to be withholding information from us regardless of whether they want us to survive or not, because we've got the stench of someone who was just voted in last round and could be recycled easily again. Fenrir, for example, lied to me about the events of the vote and said that District 7 had nothing to do with it, which I know at this point is not true in addition to the fact that District 7 has not responded to either of the messages I sent them.
That said, I don't think we're the biggest targets-- but we're easily one of the lower people on the totem pole due to our association with District 4, and I don't see us being able to come back from that even if we do renounce them since Districts 3 and 7 have already apparently built up a strong base.
I would be genuinely surprised and confused if Susan targeted us in regards to her motivation for doing so. Literally the only reason I was pushing for her last round was because I couldn't stand 12 and he said he would quit anyway-- so I would be shocked if she thought that I was out to get her. I considered myself on actually good terms with her, so I dunno where she stands. District 12 is the other mystery of the bunch. No idea what they want to do here besides keep themselves safe. We know District 4 is with us. And we know Districts 3 and 7 are against us, with maybe the exception of 3.
I'd say it's a 2-2, with the 2 wild card currently leaning against us and Kirby-Gilly. I say we feel this out, play nice so that we're not motivated to be targeted for a round or so, then after Susan gets her new partner, turn the tables on the remainder of D3 and D7.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 14, 2020 22:09:32 GMT
Ooh thanks for that tidbit about Fenrir. I think that means fenrir (district 3) is officially in an alliance with district 7, and they don't want us targeting 7, but they obviously don't want to tell us that.
I think we should sit on this information until a good opportunity to use it comes up.
I agree district 4 is looking like our best bet for allies.
I think district 12 is going to be against D4 as well.
I think this is gonna come down to who wins immunity. We gotta pray that D4 doesn't.
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 15, 2020 4:45:32 GMT
Fenrir has said that he and District 7 heard of it too late to actually do anything about it. Zod has said that Stitch probably told District 1 about it-- so already the two partners are telling a bit of conflicting stories.
What would be a good time to use this information? We only have five rounds left before the game ends, right?
In any case, I agree with you on both points. I think that we have to pray that D4 doesn't win immunity and that we do-- that's the best possible scenario for us, at least. I haven't had much luck trying to persuade District 12 either.
Sorry for being AWOL tonight, I didn't get a wink of sleep yesterday so I was catching up on that.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 15, 2020 17:43:21 GMT
Something key is the "it" they're referring to. I expect one of them is referring to the actual targeting of you as the counterwagon, and the other "it" is knowing d1 was gonna get nominated. I suspect the two partners are talking about different things that are intertwined.
I'm not actually sure which story is correct though. The way I've heard the story told is different from the other districts.
I'm paraphrasing from the people I've heard.
From Susan:
"I was on the outside and I knew it. D1 mentioned wanting to get rid of d9, and that my district was on the table b/c 12 sucks socially, and mostly good social people are left. I didn't want this, so I started pushing d9 hard".
From Tetra: "I was on the outside and I knew it. Susan came to me about wanting D9 to go home, and figured I'd push with her so we could stay safe together, so Susan and I pushed D9".
What I think happened last vote:
D12 is consensus, simple boot. Stich hears D1 is being nominated. Stich tells D1 they're being nominated. D1 tries to get un-nominated, but is unsuccessful. Meanwhile, they try to plan for their return from the exterminator and weaken D4's position for the upcoming fight. They do this by trying to get the votes onto you. It sounds like they pushed Susan on this, and it's unclear who else. Susan gets Tetra onboard the d9 wagon. Tetra and Susan push d9 to the rest of the tribe, d9 gets sent unanimously.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 15, 2020 17:45:25 GMT
As for when we should try to convince d12/Susan to target d3/7 alliance... I'm not sure. We at least need to wait and see who wins immunity. If you think you have an opening to really slam the message home, maybe you should take it.
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 15, 2020 18:47:40 GMT
Hm. That could be true-- but I'm not willing to really... go out on a limb and trust either of them, especially not if they're in an alliance with one another. Like, once we establish one as a target, it could be worth it to try and be open with the other so as to not entirely sever the connection, but I still don't think that they're trustworthy in any sense of the word.
If you want my opinion? I think the whole thing is so shrouded in mystery that it's going to be pointless to try and figure out who did what last round beyond what we already know, and our efforts are better spent focusing on the current moments to ensure that we don't get targeted again; because from what we do know, District 3 and District 7 don't like us, and District 12 and District 8 are able to be convinced.
Regardless of what actually happened, our primary concern should be with convincing the others that their best chance of winning the actual game will come from aligning with us, and that District 3 and District 7 are the two biggest threats at the moment and should rightfully go home.
That's what I'm planning on. I do have a bit of ammunition that I'm sitting on that could sway the odds in our favor-- Zod was the first one to actually mention targeting District 8, and Stitch said he felt it's 'District 12's time to go' in a message to me today.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 17, 2020 4:23:33 GMT
So what're we gonna do about d7 winning immunity?
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 17, 2020 10:22:35 GMT
Campaign and vote for D3 to be the boot. They’ve placed in the top two of every single challenge but one, and can easily steamroll to the end. Hell, the results here speak for themselves.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 18, 2020 2:54:16 GMT
Suzy just said she's voting District 4. Should we vote there to be part of the winning side, or stay on d3 as a show of good faith for our allies?
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 18, 2020 3:01:37 GMT
Stay on District 3 to adhere to our principles and also because we win if it’s 3-2-1.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 18, 2020 16:35:49 GMT
So. Where do we go from here? I think we can still rely on district 12, but they just heard (like I did) that susan wasn't there so they didn't want to make it 3-3 and still lose.
Are we gonna keep gunning after D3 (assuming they don't win immunity)? Keep our kill D3 or D7 or bust?
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Ulysses
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"He turns himself into a pickle. He's called 'Pickle Rick'. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 18, 2020 16:44:11 GMT
Well, I think Susan's plan was to guarantee herself a spot in the final four. By killing off D3's target, she earns herself favor with D3 and D7-- but she also gains a partner that was part of D4, thus making us more likely to want to work with her-- not to mention the fact that we're still going to have to gun for the threats. From that perspective, she thinks that we'll be voting for whichever one of D7 or D3 doesn't win immunity while we get nominated, and if one of us or D12 wins immunity, then both D3 and D7 will go to the Eliminator, thus guaranteeing herself a spot in the end.
It's a clever plan. If she doesn't take into account that I am extremely pissed and have been backstabbed twice.
Right now? It's very, very tempting to just go 'FU' in return to Susan and District 12 not voting with us and cast a vote for one of them this round, thus ensuring that both D3 and D7 make it to the final eight. We win immunity? We can just send both of them. But even then, I'm just really pissed off and there's a chance I would nominate one of D8 or D12 just to spite them.
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Post by Tracer on Mar 19, 2020 7:09:32 GMT
This challenge is super weird.
There will be a total of 6 robots. Half of the robots are gonna die. I expect most people are going to make robots that target people with higher stats than their own highest stast, to maximize the chances of themselves winning immunity. For that reason, I think a super balanced robot will be the least likely to get targeted.
That, or putting all of our points into savviness so we have a 0 for the other two. That'll minimize our chances of getting targeted.
Because the bots will not be able to communicate with each other, the bot that goes home will certainly be sent home by a plurality. It seems difficult for a majority to be created.
I like the idea of trying to hop onto the bandwagon and follow people home.
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