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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 3:15:21 GMT
Let me know if anything needs clarification!
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 3:21:39 GMT
The outline of the right pincer starts about 2/3 of the way across the top border. The remaining 1/3 to the right of it is just the blue background. The point of the right pincer is a bit more than a third of the way down the page. The outside of the pincer curves out from the top border and then in, so the point of the pincer is almost exactly as far right as where the outline of the pincer started. There's some space between the right pincer and the purple star, but not enough that another star would fit. The outline of the left pincer starts about 1/3 of the way down the left border. The rest of the left border below it is all the blue background. The point of the left pincer is about halfway down the page and about 1/4 of the page away from the left border. This one also curves out from the border and then in to the point. Actually, I'm getting a bit confused here. Right now I have it to where the "core" is only taking up 1/10th of the screen in both directions from the top left corner, so I don't see how the pincers can start 2/3 across the top and 1/3 across the bottom respectively while still connecting to the face. Did you mean to stay stop there, or is there something I'm missing? Also, the way I drew the right pincer is basically where it curved really far out from the face until it was kind of close to the star but not too close and then looped back around to where it looked like a really large backwards C more or less, but I'm not sure where the left pincer would fit. Does it curve in the same way or is it something completely different? I interpreted your statement as meaning I had to make sure both the start and end points of the pincer were approximately the same coordinate vertically (so the start and end points are more/less lined up and down).
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 3:31:09 GMT
It takes up much more than 1/10th of the screen horizontally. There's no actual division between the "core" and the pincers, so I said where the pincers are instead of where the "core" is. The pincers and spikes don't just connect to the face, they are uninterrupted parts of it.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 3:32:06 GMT
I stopped measuring the core once the spikes started. The left pincer starts further down than the spikes.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 3:34:19 GMT
Your right pincer sounds perfect. The left pincer is like a mirror image of that, except a bit thicker.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 3:39:06 GMT
My only problem is that I don't know how to find room for the left pincer. Right now my right pincer extends roughly twice the length of the star before it bends back around, and since the face is at the very left hand corner there's hardly any room for it to bend around like the right pincer unless they start really close to each other, but even then there needs to be like twice as much room for it to work on my end.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 3:42:19 GMT
Does aiming the pincer to the bottom right instead of straight down help? Part of the left pincer is cut off by the left border too.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 3:44:31 GMT
I'm not sure what you mean. How much of the left pincer is cut off by the border? Also, does it start pretty close to the edge of the left border?
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 3:54:11 GMT
You should be able to just put dots where I said and draw curved lines between them to get the pincer. Only a bit of the left pincer is cut off. It starts on the left border.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 3:55:24 GMT
Alright, I'll do that then. Feel free to move onto the next element.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 4:05:39 GMT
Just FYI I'm probably going to save coloring the face for later in case I make adjustments later, so remind me when we're finished with the challenge just in case I forget, though I don't see it being an issue.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 4:06:38 GMT
I will do my best to remember, but my brain may turn into a Dali painting by the time we're done.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 4:11:43 GMT
This next thing is sitting on top of the semicircle. It has a triangular base but the sides curve up and to the left instead of meeting in the middle to complete the triangle. The two sides run parallel to form a sort of "neck" for a bit. Then they both curve out and down sharply before rounding out and meeting back in the middle. The resulting abomination has three main pieces which all share the same black outline. The triangular base, the neck, and then the hammerhead/floppy ears at the top. The inside of this is orange. I'll get you some more precise measurements and locations in a moment.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 4:19:27 GMT
I'll wait for further measurements, but I think I understand the overall shape. Though, when you mean "curve out", does that mean they both split apart and go in separate directions for a bit? (I'm assuming this is what you meant by the "floppy ears").
Also, I have to log off again for the night in about 40 minutes, just FYI.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 4:24:40 GMT
The right edge of the base is about 1/4 of the page left of the right border. (It is much closer to the right border than to the left border.)
The left edge of the base is about 1/4 of the page left of the right edge. (A tiny bit under 1/2 of the page should be to the left of it.)
This thing is angled toward the red face. If you drew a straight line going down and right from the middle spike of the face, you'd hit the middle of the hammerhead. The gap between the tip of the middle spike and the hammerhead is about 1/4 of the height of the page.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 4:25:12 GMT
I think we'll be able to get a good chunk of this element done before you need to go.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 4:27:53 GMT
The lines stop being parallel and go in separate directions, yes. They both take sharp angles down, with the left line going down to the left and the right line going down to the right. After sharply going down in separate directions, they start going upward again with a rounder shape and finally connect.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 4:29:24 GMT
OK, I got the base of the triangle down. How far along does the neck bend to the left before it curves out?
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 4:32:07 GMT
How precise do you want to get about details like where the triangular base stops and how far the lines diverge before coming back together? If you understand the basic shape, it might not be worth it to get too focused on specifics.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 4:35:12 GMT
Also, I've started sketching out drafts of it and now I get what you mean by hammerhead! In the rough draft I have the two sides of the triangle start out pretty thick but then curve the same direction (though the one one the left is a much sharper curve in my version) until it goes into a thin neck for a while, and then they both go down and up in different directions in mostly symmetrical ways until they crop back up and meet around the middle of the base of the triangle (except higher up ofc). Does that sound about right?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 4:37:06 GMT
In regards to your last post, just double check to see that I'm roughly on the right track and then we can move on. We can worry about the specifics later.
After this structure, is there only the landform left to worry about, or are there still other elements as well?
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 4:41:40 GMT
Your draft sounds very accurate! The only note I have is that the middle of the head (where they meet up) is to the left of the middle of the base.
After this element, the land and the simplest element remain. This element has arms and hands and a face to deal with, though.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 4:42:39 GMT
I'm going to describe the hands first, and I'll explain the arms afterward. So for now, these will be circles that aren't connected to the structure.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 4:43:53 GMT
Mmm, OK. I think you should describe as much of the landform tonight and then I'll let you know if I have any questions about it tomorrow morning.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 4:44:19 GMT
OK, that sounds good!
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