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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 0:06:16 GMT
Pincers like a beetle has. For the spikes, imagine something like Zoidberg from Futurama, except there are spikes instead of rounded tentacles on his face. The whole thing could look like a claw if it didn't have eyes. The pincers are the same red as the rest. The pincers and the spikes are all rounded triangles. The left pincer is thicker than the right one. The left pincer is pointing down and slightly to the right. The right pincer is pointing down and slightly to the left. The point is the tip, yeah. Hopefully clarifying that the point is the tip can help you figure out measurements, since I tried to give you explanations for where the tips are and where they start.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 0:10:38 GMT
It's not shaped like a normal face. I'm calling it a face because it has eyes and the spikes probably represent a mouth. It is tilted to the bottom right. The left and top are both cut off, yes. The spikes in the middle are small compared to the pincers. The spikes just out slightly to the bottom right, same angle as the pincers and general direction the face is looking.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 0:19:58 GMT
How big is the face (the portion where all the spikes and pincers come out of)? Do the pincers look big compared to the face (ie what are the general porportions there)?
For the sake of simplifying it I'm going to try drawing it as kind of a giant claw. There's going to be a circle that's titled slightly and is cut off of the page, and then from the bottom left / right is where I'm going to extend the pincers from, and the spikes are going to be somewhere in the middle with the eyes slightly above that. Does that sound about right? I'm mostly looking for the general shape than being super specific since I imagine there's still a lot more to be done, but I don't want to be too off base from the picture. Also, I'm not exactly sure how to visualize the other six "points" / gaps. Do you mean there's just a bit of space between all the spikes or is it more like there's noticeable dents in the face between the gaps?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 0:21:14 GMT
And one more thing regarding the semi-circle, about how much of the right border does it take up?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 0:22:30 GMT
Oh, and is the face basically just like a floating head/claw with no other body other than what you described earlier with the pincers / spikes?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 0:23:12 GMT
Sorry, one more thing about the semi-circle. It has a black border, correct?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 0:26:12 GMT
Oh wait a second, just to double check, the face is in the very top left corner, correct? Sorry for so many questions! It's just that it's now starting to click for me.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 1:03:08 GMT
The face, minus the pincers and spikes, is still much bigger than the star. Probably around the size of the semicircle.
The face isn't really circular without the pincers. You could draw it as a circle and then erase the part between the pincers, if that makes sense.
Dents could be a better way to put it, yeah. They're rounded triangles like the spikes, except they're filling in gaps between the spikes instead of actually being part of the face.
There's no other body with the top left thing. Just a face that looks like a claw with eyes and spikes for a mouth. The outline is black, yup. The parts that touch the edges of the template don't have an outline. Yes it's in the top left.
The semicircle takes up very little of the right border. It's too small for me to give you a good measurement. It's shorter than the shortest leg of the star.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 1:13:09 GMT
Hmm, so you mean like the pincers are like extending from the outline of the face instead of sticking out of it (like your nose or something)?
Are the dents connected to the spikes?
OK, so you know in like those kid drawings that has the sun in the top right corner and is cut off? That's more/less how my face looks so far, except I'm going to cut out holes for the pincers. Is that about right, or at least somewhat close? I'm probably not a good enough artist to try anything too complex.
Also, just to be clear regarding how the face is arranged, from left to right around the bottom of the face it looks like the left pincer, the 6 spikes with the dents between each of them, and then another pincer at the right, correct? There's no spikes that are before/after any of pincers and they're all more/less bunched together?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 1:41:22 GMT
Also when you get around to answering those questions I think I'll have enough I need to get a decent approximation of the face and pincers / spikes, so we should move on to describing the next element when you have the time. If I'm still confused on some parts we can revisit it later once we have the rest of the piece done. I want to make sure we get to the entire piece and have at least a solid foundation for that, and I'll try to help with that too by asking for less specifics unless I'm stumped by something. I'm just worried we might not finish it is all.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 2:14:50 GMT
The pincers, the spikes, and the rest of the face all share the same outline/border.
The dents are the gaps between the spikes.
Your sun example sounds good.
There are five spikes protruding outward from the face. There are six dents/empty spaces. The spikes are pretty bunched together, and there are no spikes outside of the pincers.
I'll give you a little bit of time and then start describing the next element.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 2:35:36 GMT
OK one more thing, about how far down from the top of the image does the face go down to? Does it take up as much vertical space as the semisphere does horizontally? I just want to be extra sure regarding the size of the face because it was much smaller when I initially doodled it.
After that you should start describing the next element. I just realized that I have another early shift tomorrow so after I'm done with tonight I'd only have a couple of hours to finish the image, which is a lot less than I was imagining, so if it's possible I'd like to get as many elements done tonight as possible if not all of them (or at least a baseline of them) and then do some more fine tweaking tomorrow, as long as it isn't too time-consuming / inconvenient on your end.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 2:36:19 GMT
Oh, and to add to the face, is it's vertical / horizontal length about the same (like a circle) or is it more disporportioned?
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 2:40:13 GMT
When you ask about the face, do you mean ignoring the spikes and pincers?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 2:41:42 GMT
Yes, ignoring the spikes and pincers, just the core of it.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 2:55:16 GMT
The points for the openings between the pincers/spikes also have a slight slope upward to the right. The point of the opening between the left pincer and the leftmost spike is a bit less than 1/5 of the way to the right of the left border. It's a bit more than 1/10 of the way down from the top border. The point of the opening between the right pincer and the rightmost spike is basically right above the point of the rightmost spike, in the horizontal middle of the page. The spike's point might be every so slightly to the left of the opening's point. The "core" of the face is from the top edge of the template to the top of the gaps/dents. The vertical space of that "core" should be about the same as the semicircle. The semicircle takes up a bit more horizontal space.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 2:56:30 GMT
To be clear, the semicircle is bigger horizontally even if you include the pincers with the face. My statement about the vertical space last message was just about the "core" of the face.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 2:57:24 GMT
So basically it should be covering most of the left half of the image, more or less?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 2:58:28 GMT
The core, I mean
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 3:01:11 GMT
The core only comes 1/10 of the way down.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 3:01:15 GMT
Also, did you say how thick the pincers and spikes were, approximetaly?
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 3:04:03 GMT
Do you mean the cores is only 1/10 of the way down from the top, or is that the amount of space left from the bottom?
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 3:08:17 GMT
Not explicitly. I think the information I gave regarding locations for the start, end, and tips would be more useful than trying to describe the thickness of each.
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Post by Ted Cruz on Mar 6, 2020 3:09:09 GMT
Do you mean the cores is only 1/10 of the way down from the top, or is that the amount of space left from the bottom? 1/10 of the way down from the top. 9/10 of the template is below it.
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Post by Stitch on Mar 6, 2020 3:10:38 GMT
OK, I got it. I think I misread one of your earlier statements. You can start describing the next element now if you'd like.
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